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Author Topic: Veštacka inkubacija ikre - THUMBLER + Uticaj tumblerovanja na kasnije mrestove!  (Read 29051 times)

Offline Bojko

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Re: Uticaj tumblerovanja na kasnije mrestove!
« Reply #20 on: 09 November, 2005, 18:27:30 »
Pa JZH lepo je Alzo napisao,da če tu da pita,da ne otvara novu temu.

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Re: Uticaj tumblerovanja na kasnije mrestove!
« Reply #21 on: 09 November, 2005, 18:50:09 »
Znaci da rezimiramo...
Ciklid koji je odgajan u thumbler-u, ce se mrestiti najnormalnije, kao sto bi to uradio ciklid koji je imao "punu roditeljsku negu" (nosenje u ustima, vracanje u ista...)
Znaci kod ciklida IMPRINTING ne igra neku veliku ulogu? Wright? :-?
Srecan je dan kad sam nasmejan ko kreten.

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Re: Uticaj tumblerovanja na kasnije mrestove!
« Reply #22 on: 09 November, 2005, 21:54:09 »
Gile, to je u sustini dvojak problem, mozes da ga posmatras iz dve jednacine:

15Xgeneracija

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NXgenracija

Mislim da u drugoj varijanti, osobina pocinje da se gubi...



Profiler-u, obradio si samo deo price tvojim zakljuckom:

1. Tokom sazrevanja, dimenzija supljine za skladistenje ikre se povecava, otud uspesniji mrestovi kod "iskusnijih" zenki

2. Triger za nosenje, moze da bude mnogo stvari, mozda ukus ili miris ikre, tojes miris ili ukus oplodjene ikre

3. Iskusne zenke, su bolje uvezbale thumblovanje ikre i ne gutaju je ili im ne ispada iz usta, ili je manje ostecuju u procesu...

4. Iskusne zenke, imaju bolju tehniku odstranjivanja ubudjale ikre, to jest, manje progutaju ili pljunu ili ostete tokom eliminacije

5. Iskustvo, ustvari moze da bude i hormonski proces, to jest da je potrebno da zenka dovoljno sazri da bi poceli da se luce adekvatni hormoni, koji je sprecavaju da jede i sl. ovo je naravno samo moje lupetanje...

I jos mnogo toga, stoga, ja glasam da postoji "iskustvo" koje naravno ne mora da bude ikakvo stvarno iskustvo, vec neki element ili skup elemenata, koji kao krajnji rezultat daju vecu iznosljivost...
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Thumbler
« Reply #23 on: 08 December, 2005, 23:38:57 »
Zaista neobicna i lijepa riba.
Rizikujem da ispadnem glup, ali sta je metoda sa Thumblerom?

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Re: Benthochromis tricoti
« Reply #24 on: 09 December, 2005, 00:52:23 »
Thumbler je inkubator. Metoda je ta da se iz zenke(ciklida ustonose) izvadi ikra nakon oplodnje i na vestacki nacin dodje do malih ciklida. O ovoj metodi smo nekada (davno) pisali, te je mozes naci na sajtu.

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Re: Benthochromis tricoti
« Reply #25 on: 09 December, 2005, 10:30:23 »
Hvala na inf. znam za metod, samo nisam znao do sad da inkubator tako zovu.

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Re: Benthochromis tricoti
« Reply #26 on: 09 December, 2005, 13:42:54 »
tum·ble
v. tum·bled, tum·bling, tum·bles
v. intr.

   1. To perform acrobatic feats such as somersaults, rolls, or twists.
   2.
         1. To fall or roll end over end: The kittens tumbled over each other.
         2. To spill or roll out in confusion or disorder: Students tumbled out of the bus.
         3. To pitch headlong; fall: tumbled on the ice.
         4. To proceed haphazardly.
   3.
         1. To topple, as from power or a high position; fall.
         2. To collapse: The wall tumbled down.
         3. To drop: Prices tumbled.
   4. To come upon accidentally; happen on: We tumbled on a fine restaurant.
   5. Slang. To come to a sudden understanding; catch on: tumbled to the reality that he had been cheated.



   1. To cause to fall; bring down: A scandal tumbled the government.
   2. To put, spill, or toss haphazardly: tumbled the extra parts into a box.
   3. To toss or whirl in a drum, tumbler, or tumbling box.




   1. An act of tumbling; a fall.
   2. Confusion; disorder.


[Middle English tumblen, frequentative of tumben, to dance about, from Old English tumbian.]

tumble

n 1: an acrobatic feat of rolling or turning end over end 2: a sudden drop from an upright position; "he had a nasty spill on the ice" [syn: spill, fall] v 1: fall down, as if collapsing; "The tower of the World Trade Center tumbled after the plane hit it" [syn: topple] 2: cause to topple or tumble by pushing [syn: topple, tip] 3: roll over and over, back and forth 4: fly around; "The clothes tumbled in the dryer"; "rising smoke whirled in the air" [syn: whirl, whirl around] 5: fall apart; "the building crimbled after the explosion"; "Negociations broke down" [syn: crumble, crumple, break down, collapse] 6: throw together in a confused mass; "They tumbled the teams with no apparent pattern" 7: understand, usually after some initial difficulty; "She didn't know what her classmates were plotting but finally caught on" [syn: catch on, get wise, get onto, latch on, cotton on, twig, get it] 8: fall suddenly and sharply; "Prices tumbled after the devaluation of the currency" 9: put clothes in a tumbling barrel, where they are whirled about in hot air, usually with the purpose of drying; "Wash in warm water and tumble dry" 10: suffer a sudden downfall, overthrow, or defeat 11: do gymnastics, roll and turn skillfully
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Re: Benthochromis tricoti
« Reply #27 on: 09 December, 2005, 15:39:53 »
VAuuuuuuu!
Koji je to rijecnik?

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Re: Thumbler
« Reply #28 on: 09 December, 2005, 19:44:55 »
Ja sam malo secnuo temu i premestio je u Tehnika i hemija. Molim sve da se drze teme, a da za sve ostalo otvore novi "topic".
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Re: Thumbler
« Reply #29 on: 10 December, 2005, 03:56:26 »
:respekt 2 ***
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